Oct
29
To blog your research, or not to blog your research?
- Our starting point is an opinion piece in the Guardian by Sarah Kendrew (@sarahkendrew) which took on some negative opinions expressed about blogging in a Q+A by physicists Brian Cox (TVs current stand-in-exotic-place-staring-moodily-into-space icon) and Jeff Forshaw.
- Brian Cox is wrong: blogging your research is not a recipe for disaster
A few days ago, the Guardian ran a Q&A session with Brian Cox and Jeff Forshaw. Cox and Forshaw are professors of physics at the Universi… - How you feel about this issue depends on how you interpret the scope of the question (and the answers) and Sarah’s piece makes some excellent points about how in physics at least, things like the arXiv pre-print server make things much less clear-cut than they once were; findings are making the news before they have been formally peer-reviewed and published. But that’s not quite the same as blogging your results as you get them (which, as Sarah also points, out, some people are trying out too). Over to Brian Romans:
- I agree with Cox about this http://t.co/0FgXe07T I would never blog my research results before or instead of a paper
- before all the sci writers/journos/bloggers freak out, that’s the question — would you blog it INSTEAD of publishing a paper
- but, blogging about my research once it’s out, heck yeah! e.g.: http://t.co/4tbZF1Sc that’s what I want to see more of
- » Linking Erosional and Depositional Landscapes
The surface of Earth is being reshaped constantly. Mountainous uplands are broken down by water and wind producing sediment that is moved… - As demonstrated by the link above, Brian is an exemplar of using his blog to provide a more accessible account of his own research; but, as he says, only after it has been published in a peer-reviewed journal.
- @clasticdetritus Myself, Id wait until after my results get “journal’ed”. Once that happens, I blog away. I need to revive my geoblog.
- @clasticdetritus I agree, to an extent: blogging is a more natural replacement for a clunky press release.
- @clasticdetritus It’s not so much about about venue: just a paper represents much more thought/effort/*time* than any blog post could…
- @clasticdetritus …that said, I wish there was a geological equivalent of the arXiv.
- @Allochthonous yes, that would be cool … and then once in there, blog away
- @Allochthonous but, ideas about blogs *replacing* papers aren’t gonna work
- @clasticdetritus It’s not so much about about venue: just a paper represents much more thought/effort/*time* than any blog post could…
- @clasticdetritus …it’s akin to asking “will blogs replace books”?
- @Allochthonous @clasticdetritus Both blog & p-rev have their place Personally prefer traditional p-rev 4 final result & blog 4 evrythng else
- @Allochthonous @clasticdetritus one more thought-we need more public engagement with science & blogs are probably best way to do that, no?
- @AGUSciPolicy I think both @clasticdetritus and I would agree with that, given our online activities…
- @AGUSciPolicy @allochthonous @clasticdetritus The challenge is getting that blog post to the public: needs to be where they are or good SEO.
- @Allochthonous @clasticdetritus Still question of blogging results or prelim results of Research versus engagement on interesting subjects
- @AGUSciPolicy I am an academic and I’ve been blogging for 5 years, I agree its fantastic outreach/comm — but I won’t blog unpub’d results
- @clasticdetritus I completely agree. Blogging unpublished data is not a smart move IMO @AGUSciPolicy @Allochthonous
- @clasticdetritus Dont want unpub results misinterpreted? Get scooped issue (imagine this would be common to most)? Some other reason?
- @AGUSciPolicy yes, those reasons & others … it’d be better if I wrote a blog post about, difficult (for me at least) 2 explain via twitter
- Which is exactly what Brian did:
- » Why I Won’t Blog Unpublished Results
The Guardian science blog Notes & Theories: Dispatched From the Science Desk published a post by Sarah Kendrew this week disagreeing with… - @AGUSciPolicy also, I think this would actually be what happens http://t.co/xmlFCm4X
- PHD Comic: OMG! ROTFL!!
U. Kentucky7:00pmMemorial Hall event U. Arizona4:00pmStudent Union, North Ballroom U. North Texas7:00pmUNT Alumni Center Auburn U.5:00pmS… - @EarthlikePlanet @clasticdetritus @Allochthonous Was thinking bout blogging science prog, eg made this graph, got X result, paper soon, etc.
- @AGUSciPolicy I’ve had my work improved immensely by formal peer review — I don’t think commenters on blogs will put in that effort
- @AGUSciPolicy i’m not saying it’s not possible — but after blogging for 5 years, I don’t see my field embracing this method of peer review
- @clasticdetritus yes. peer review is huge help to authors, not without faults, but way more + than - @AGUSciPolicy @Allochthonous
- @AGUSciPolicy i might blog the research process (field pics, lab pics, what doing), but no data until pub @clasticdetritus @Allochthonous
- @clasticdetritus Amen on that, brother. Blogging about unpublished research results is almost as bad as “peer review by press release.”
- Of course, one of the assumptions of the discussion thus far is that the current peer review+publication model, whilst not without its problems, is ‘a bad system that just happens to be better than all the other possible ones’. Not everyone agrees with this, and criticisms in the open/closed debate often spill into criticism of the current system of peer review, too.
- @clasticdetritus Other side of journal pub is need for better access. For interdisciplinarians, subscrip or indiv article rates often high.
- @clasticdetritus How do you feel about publishing peer-reviewed results in a blog form? http://t.co/yBLEpqKF
- @maitri where/how does the peer review happen?
- @clasticdetritus Same way it does now. Nothing changes but where research is published in the name of access.
- @maitri sure, I see peer-review and open vs. closed access to the journal as separate issues — i.e., I’ll blog about my research … (1/2)
- @maitri … findings as long as it’s been reviewed … if that’s in open-access journal, then that’s even better (2/2)
- @clasticdetritus Traditional peer review also has problems. Had a paper rejected b/c it didn’t fly with reviewer’s competing theory (1/2)
- @clasticdetritus Also read this timely piece by Michael Eisen: Peer review is f***ed up – let’s fix it http://t.co/kZk7uOg1 (2/2)
- Peer review is f***ed up – let’s fix it
Peer review is ostensibly one of the central pillars of modern science. A paper is not taken seriously by other scientists unless it is p… - @maitri I’ve read Eisen’s post a couple times & have a difficult time following his solution — need to read again. Current system .. (1/2)
- @maitri … not perfect for sure. But, seems a lot of stuff out there offering solutions aren’t *that* different
- Of course, this is a bit of a digression. It seems the consensus in the geoblogosphere is that blogging about your research is that it should accompany publication, rather than replace it. But we still think there is something to learn from the physicists:
- @Allochthonous I wish. I wish, I wish, I wish geoscience had arXiv.
- @mikamckinnon As I see it, the problem is not so much of creation as getting people to use/accept it. And it’s a tough problem.
- @Allochthonous @clasticdetritus Hmm. PLoS & arXiv publish geo-related papers, seem to be expanding. Maybe lobby for geo-specific categories?
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